Episode 203 – Edit-Free ESE

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Because Matt spent the weekend at C2E2 and couldn’t edit the show this week, he and Chris and doing a special edit-free Every Story Ever special this week! Among the comics we discuss, the best (?) Mark Millar comic, Superman Red Son, and the worst Grant Morrison comic. Which one is that? Listen and find out!

The Rundown

Comics Talked About:

  • DC Secret Origins #1
  • Original Sin #0

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6 thoughts on “Episode 203 – Edit-Free ESE”

  1. Bill Sienkewicz does the art for one (1) Sandman story. It is even weirder and more abstract than his usual style. It features the most abstract and strange primary Sandman character, Delirium. It is in the worst and most pretentious volume, the one Gaiman wrote after he became a household goth name and knew he didn’t have to try anymore.

    And he STILL makes it the single best Sandman story ever. That’s how rad Sienkewicz is.

  2. Kirby actually didn’t draw the original X-Men Sentinel story. He only drew the covers.

  3. Old Man Logan does indeed suck. I would argue it sucks entirely based on the moment where Hulk implies he raped She-Hulk in order to produce the Hulk Gang. Because up until then, I really enjoyed that story.

  4. A couple of nitpicks:

    Kirby did layout for all of the original Sentinels arc in X-Men, so they’re his designs and probably co-creation. Kirby wasn’t consistently good in the 1960-1965 range–the early Avengers was pretty tepid as well.

    Alan Moore never left comics. After V for Vendetta concluded, he did stop writing super-hero comics for about four years (until 1963), but he had several other projects–Brought to Light, A Small Killing, Lost Girls, Big Numbers, and From Hell, as well as occasional short stories. But major, major kudos to Chris for his unhesitating identification of Badrock vs. Violator as Moore’s worst work.

    Mark Millar. Whew. Scattershot points:

    * Millar was one of my “must-buy” writers before his run on The Authority, based on the strength of things like Swamp Thing and Superman Adventures. Now he’s on my “buy with extreme caution” list.

    * I liked “Old Man Logan” as a part of the interlocking triad with 1985 and Fantastic Four, but I thought it was the least interesting of the 3 and I’d completely forgotten the rapey bits B Lau mentions.

    * Millar’s laziness has, to my mind, never been clearer than on Red Son. I read the first issue and realized there was nothing in it that indicated he’d put more than 5 minutes’ thought into it after coming up with the basic concept (which was, if we’re being unfair, done better as a 1970s Saturday Night Live skit).

    * A young girl cosplaying Hit-Girl is probably doing it based on the movie, not the comic; the movie (the first one, anyway) is MUCH more female-friendly than the comic.

    * All that said, I think that both Superior and Starlight are good books. Superior taps into some of the joy-in-being-GOOD that his Superman Adventures had, and Starlight seems like it might do the same. I have deliberately avoided Nemesis and would require money flowing in to my hands before I would read MPH or whatever his “Flash gone bad” story is called.

  5. I honestly did not know there was so much vitriol for ARKHAM ASYLUM. I can definitely see the points you guys make, but for the comic that got me into comics as a teenager, I can’t stay mad at the little guy.

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